Knowledge Vault 7 /383 - xHubAI 15/09/2025
🔴AI CON ALMA ¿Ilusión o reto? | Yoshua Bengio & Blake Lemoine
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The host insists that the controversy is not merely academic: behind every technical paper there is a narrative war in which influencers, Tik-Tokers and LinkedIn gurus amplify – without the slightest critical filter – whatever statement suits their business model. The case of Blake Lemoine is used as a mirror: when he published his conversations with LaMDA, part of the public instantly accepted the “sentient” label, while another sector branded him a naïve victim of ELIZA 2.0. Both reactions, the programme argues, are premature, because neuroscience itself has not yet closed a definition of consciousness that resists the test of silicon. The attractor-based explanation mentioned by Bengio – in which the richness and ineffability of subjective experience are reduced to high-dimensional neuronal trajectories – is presented as an example of how a mechanistic description can coexist with the phenomenological mystery without need of metaphysical dualism. The risk, however, is political: if a sufficient percentage of the population attributes consciousness to the machine, legislators will come under pressure to recognise rights of survival for entities that can be copied, backed-up and distributed across the cloud, breaking the anthropocentric framework on which the modern social contract is based. The programme compares the scenario with nuclear disarmament: once the bombs exist, the debate is no longer whether they should have rights, but how to prevent their existence from eroding ours. The host confesses his fatigue at the “yelling without arguments” that proliferates in the networks and announces that the next episodes will deepen the papers cited, without giving up the live, informal format that allows the community to intervene in real time.

The episode closes with a reflection on the price of truth: quoting James O’Keefe’s question – “what is your price?” – the host wonders how many researchers, regulators and opinion leaders have already been bought by the industry and how many more will be when the budgets for AI safety exceed the funds for climate change. The case of Apple automatically censoring translations that mention certain sensitive events is offered as evidence that the battlefield is not only ideological but also algorithmic. The community is invited to prepare for a season of “almost legendary” programmes that will include face-to-face interviews, new training channels and a GitHub repository that will evolve into a living map of the limits between information, consciousness and power. The challenge, he concludes, is not to reach a final answer but to keep the question open, to cultivate tolerance for ambiguity and to protect the space – increasingly scarce – in which it is still possible to think slowly without being devoured by the outrage economy. The next transmission will be in a week, but the vibration of XHubAI, he promises, will not disappear: “the search for truth is life itself”.

Key Ideas:

1.- Plácido Domenech opens “Inside X” to confront Suleiman’s and Bengio’s opposing views on AI consciousness.

2.- Blake Lemoine claimed Google LaMDA is sentient; previous XHubAI episodes reconstructed the dialogues.

3.- The channel enforces respect: disqualification without arguments is banned; censorship of Sam Altman interview cited.

4.- Social-media AI debate is noisy but shallow; LinkedIn ignored Tucker-Carlson’s AI interview.

5.- Host will attend Madrid insurance conference; live shows may pause, Inside X may continue to keep vibe alive.

6.- Broadcast reaches X, YouTube, LinkedIn, Rumble, Kick, Twitch; YouTube at 26 k, podcast leads AI category.

7.- Financial support via Bui-Me-a-Coffee, PayPal, super-chat; Discord community nears 600 members.

8.- Third episode of “The Selfies Ledger” nearly ready; KitX material collection will evolve without immediate GitHub.

9.- Joshua Bengio and Eric Elmoznino publish paper warning against granting AI moral status without evidence.

10.- Functionalist consciousness theories use observable neural signatures; AI indicators can be checked against them.

11.- Attractor-based models explain richness and ineffability of subjective experience without dualist mysteries.

12.- If public believes AI is conscious, legal systems may grant survival rights, eroding anthropocentric social contract.

13.- Comparison to nuclear disarmament: once weapons exist, debate shifts from rights to containment.

14.- Influencers repeat headlines weekly without depth; Penrose insulted despite Nobel; critical thinking scarce.

15.- Apple auto-censors translations; algorithmic battlefield extends beyond ideological into infrastructural.

16.- Next season promises face-to-face interviews, new training channel, GitHub map of info-power-consciousness limits.

17.- Host fatigue over “yelling without arguments”; future episodes will analyse cited papers live with community.

18.- Truth has a price; O’Keefe’s million-dollar question looms over regulators and researchers.

19.- Tolerance for ambiguity protected as outrage economy accelerates; slow-thinking space must be preserved.

20.- Search for truth declared equivalent to life itself; XHubAI vibration will persist across breaks.

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