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🔐CYBERSEGURIDAD.AI : Inteligencia Artificial aplicada a la ciberseguridad | Luis Javier Navarrete
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autonomous pentest 2] K2 -.-> G1 Main --> K3[Recon scan exploit
PoC generator 3] K3 -.-> G1 Main --> K4[Lego modules for
CI/CD blue-team 4] K4 -.-> G1 Main --> K5[Local Qwen keeps
data on-prem 5] K5 -.-> G1 Main --> K6[Alias Zero hides
traffic state 6] K6 -.-> G1 Main --> K7[GitHub trending
used worldwide 7] K7 -.-> G1 Main --> K8[Cut human effort
80 to 10 8] K8 -.-> G1 Main --> R1[LLMs non-deterministic
prompt injection open 9] R1 -.-> G2[Risks] Main --> R2[Backdoors in weights
math undetectable 10] R2 -.-> G2 Main --> R3[Alignment illusion
data poisoned 11] R3 -.-> G2 Main --> R4[Anthropic cant read
layer thoughts 12] R4 -.-> G2 Main --> R5[Culture AI-vs-AI
beats 100 safety 13] R5 -.-> G2 Main --> R6[North Korea AI
auto attacks 14] R6 -.-> G2 Main --> R7[GenAI excels phishing
deepfake scale 15] R7 -.-> G2 Main --> P1[Over-regulation spawns
dark models 16] P1 -.-> G3[Policy] Main --> P2[Open safer than
closed monopolies 17] P2 -.-> G3 Main --> F1[Narrow LLMs wont
become AGI 18] F1 -.-> G4[Future] Main --> F2[AGI in 5-10
Frankenstein merge 19] F2 -.-> G4 Main --> F3[Future software neural
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Luis Javier Navarrete, researcher at Alias Robotics, explains that Kai is an open-source, EU-funded cybersecurity agent that wraps large language models with tools for autonomous pentesting, exploitation, patching and auditing. Built by a multicultural European team, it democratizes expensive security testing by automating reconnaissance, vulnerability scanning, proof-of-concept generation and even blue-team response through modular, Lego-like components that can be pipelined into CI/CD. Kai runs local models such as Qwen-3 or GPT-OS 20B to keep data private, while Alias Zero anonymizes traffic so no third party ever sees the network state. The framework is already trending on GitHub, used worldwide and aims to reduce human effort in security workflows from 80 % to 10 % by 2028.

The conversation stresses that perfect security is impossible: LLMs are intrinsically non-deterministic, prompt-injection is probably unsolvable and backdoors can be mathematically undetectable. Alignment is called “an illusion” because training data can be poisoned and interpretability remains unreachable even for labs like Anthropic. Instead of pursuing 100 % safety, teams should foster security culture, comply with standards and prepare for AI-versus-AI battles. North Korea, criminal gangs and script-kiddies already weaponize generative models for phishing, deep-fakes and social engineering; therefore defenders need open, auditable European tools to keep up. Regulation that over-restricts access merely pushes capability into a dark-web of forbidden models, so transparency and community scrutiny are safer than monopoly control.

Looking forward, the guests agree that narrow, stochastic LLMs will not become AGI; instead, hybrid cognitive architectures mixing vision, robotics and world-models will yield a “Frankenstein” AGI within five to ten years. Software itself is evolving toward neural networks that generate every component at runtime, eliminating pre-written code. Europe must invest now or be squeezed between U.S. and Chinese AI empires; Kai is presented as proof that Spanish-led talent can build strategic, ethical alternatives. The episode closes by urging young developers to practice, share knowledge and treat AI as assistive electricity rather than a replacement, ensuring humans remain the primary beneficiaries of the coming machine intelligence surge.

Key Ideas:

1.- Kai is an open-source cybersecurity agent funded by the European Union.

2.- It wraps LLMs with tools for autonomous pentesting and auditing.

3.- The framework can recon, scan, exploit and generate proof-of-concepts.

4.- Modular Lego-like components allow CI/CD integration and blue-team response.

5.- Local models like Qwen-3 20B keep sensitive data inside user premises.

6.- Alias Zero anonymizes all traffic so no third party sees network state.

7.- GitHub trending project already used globally including in Iran and Russia.

8.- Goal is to cut human effort in security workflows from 80 % to 10 % by 202

9.- LLMs are intrinsically non-deterministic and prompt-injection is unsolvable.

10.- Backdoors embedded in model weights can be mathematically undetectable.

11.- Alignment is called an illusion because training data can be poisoned.

12.- Anthropic admits it cannot scalably interpret how model layers think.

13.- Security culture, standards and AI-versus-AI defense are better than 100 % safety.

14.- North Korea already has AI-only hacker teams launching automated attacks.

15.- Generative AI excels at phishing, deep-fakes and large-scale social engineering.

16.- Over-regulation pushes AI capability into a dark-web of forbidden models.

17.- Transparent open-source tools are safer than monopolistic closed systems.

18.- Narrow LLMs will not become AGI; hybrid cognitive architectures will.

19.- AGI will arrive within five to ten years through “Frankenstein” integration.

20.- Future software will be neural networks generating every component at runtime.

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