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SINGULARIDAD.IA ¿Guerra civilizatoria o Paz universal? | Larso Ibar
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challenges dogmas. 2]:::geopolitics Main --> A3[Kissinger: AI warnings
expose balance paradox. 3]:::geopolitics Main --> A4[Thiel vs Schmidt:
apocalypse vs equilibrium. 4]:::geopolitics Main --> A5[Musk technocratic party
seeks US renewal. 5]:::governance Main --> A6[Europe consumer dependency
amid capital over-accumulation. 6]:::economics Main --> A7[UBI sedates crisis
without productive expansion. 7]:::economics Main --> A8[Soviet collapse warns
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governance capacity. 9]:::governance Main --> A10[Manifesto X: AI
for peace priority. 10]:::peace Main --> A11[Nuclear accords model
for AI arms. 11]:::peace Main --> A12[Lost grandparent stories
break wisdom chain. 12]:::society Main --> A13[Search to inference
culture shift. 13]:::future Main --> A14[US reindustrialization gamble
with MAGA erosion. 14]:::economics Main --> A15[China socialist market
gains AI flexibility. 15]:::geopolitics Main --> A16[Labor implosion foretells
social contract revolution. 16]:::economics Main --> A17[Hyperinflation could destroy
80% capital titles. 17]:::economics Main --> A18[AI exploits human
loneliness in attention. 18]:::society Main --> A19[EU regulation over
production in AI. 19]:::governance Main --> A20[Need superintelligence governance
international agreement. 20]:::governance Main --> A21[AI creates new
kingdom beyond life. 21]:::future Main --> A22[Revolutions when production
blocks relations. 22]:::economics Main --> A23[Destroy forces before
new accumulation. 23]:::economics Main --> A24[Elites weaponize UBI
to control surplus. 24]:::governance Main --> A25[Ethical AI needs
peace and dignity. 25]:::peace Main --> A26[Nuclear family disruption
spreads loneliness. 26]:::society Main --> A27[Global South leverage
as North declines. 27]:::geopolitics Main --> A28[Tech supremacy shapes
new hierarchies. 28]:::future Main --> A29[Discourse must transcend
tool-centric AI. 29]:::future Main --> A30[Future dialogues deepen
Manifesto peace. 30]:::peace

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The conversation opens with Plácido Doménech welcoming listeners to another Xtalks session, highlighting the enduring relevance of guest Lars Ibar, whose prior episodes have already become some of the most listened-to without any promotion. Framed around the provocative question “Civilizatory War or Universal Peace?”, the discussion sets out to explore how artificial intelligence, singularity, and geopolitical tensions are reshaping humanity’s future. Menes stresses that the program, broadcast across multiple platforms except Facebook and Instagram, seeks to remain free from the constraints of large tech channels, inviting the audience to participate live and respectfully.
Lars Ibar introduces himself as webmaster of metaverso.info and a participant in the X-Hawaii community, describing his role as both independent pirate ship and loyal fleet member. He identifies as a contemporary Marxist scholar, Catholic, and product of a politically eclectic family—his grandfather a communist, his grandmother a Carlist—underscoring that his views are forged from lived historical memory rather than abstract ideology. Ibar argues that the current cultural wave, transitioning from a “culture of search” to a “civilization of inferences,” demands that we recover the lost practice of listening to elders whose stories once knitted society together.
Kissinger’s late-life obsession with AI, co-authoring “The Age of AI and Our Human Future,” serves as a pivot to geopolitics. Host and guest debate the paradox of Kissinger: architect of Cold-War balance of terror yet a restraining force against nuclear war. They juxtapose Kissinger’s legacy with the contrasting visions of Peter Thiel and Eric Schmidt, the former articulating an apocalyptic, supremacist transhumanism, the latter a more measured search for equilibrium. Ibar warns that Thiel’s fusion of Christian eschatology with radical body-and-soul transformation projects an almost satanic narrative, whereas Schmidt’s military-industrial investments, though dangerous, still seek a stabilizing balance of power.
The dialogue then shifts to the domestic politics of the United States and Europe. Menes and Ibar foresee a potential technocratic turn led by Elon Musk—who, though constitutionally barred from the presidency, could steer policy through a newly created political party. They argue that the U.S. faces a Soviet-style collapse if it fails to reindustrialize and absorb AI-driven unemployment, while Europe risks permanent relegation to consumer status, its capital over-accumulated in U.S. assets. Universal Basic Income is discussed as both sedative and trap: without prior expansion of productive forces, it would merely subsidize stagnation and deepen exploitation elsewhere.
Concluding, they advocate for a civilizatory project anchored in Manifesto X, whose fourteenth principle calls for AI governance whose “moral north” is peace, not defense. Rather than wait for catastrophe, they urge a worldwide agreement limiting weaponized superintelligence, modeled on Cold-War nuclear accords. The conversation ends with an invitation to continue the debate on Discord and in future summer sessions, underscoring that the stakes are nothing less than a new framework of progress—one that must be built through conscious political struggle, not technological determinism.

30 Key Ideas:

1.- Civilizatory War or Universal Peace frames AI-driven future choices.

2.- Lars Ibar’s eclectic Marxist-Catholic lens challenges ideological dogmas.

3.- Kissinger’s late-life AI warnings reveal geopolitical balance paradoxes.

4.- Thiel’s apocalyptic transhumanism versus Schmidt’s military equilibrium.

5.- Musk’s emerging technocratic party seeks U.S. civilizatory renewal.

6.- Europe risks consumer dependency amid capital over-accumulation abroad.

7.- Universal Basic Income sedates crisis without expanding productive forces.

8.- Soviet Union collapse analogy warns of hidden demographic-economic rot.

9.- AI superintelligence may outpace society’s ability to establish governance.

10.- Manifesto X principle fourteen prioritizes AI for peace over armament.

11.- Cold-War nuclear accords proposed as model for AI arms limitation.

12.- Grandparent stories reveal lost intergenerational wisdom transmission.

13.- Cultural shift from search culture to inference civilization underway.

14.- U.S. reindustrialization gamble tied to MAGA social base erosion.

15.- China’s socialist market model gains comparative AI flexibility.

16.- Labor market implosion foretells inevitable social contract revolution.

17.- Hyperinflation scenario could destroy 80 percent of capital titles.

18.- Attention-economy AI risks industrial exploitation of human loneliness.

19.- European Commission AI directives prioritize regulation over production.

20.- Need for international agreement on superintelligence governance stressed.

21.- AI’s potential to create new kingdom of life beyond fauna and flora.

22.- Historical revolutions emerge when production relations block forces.

23.- Destruction of productive forces precedes new accumulation cycles.

24.- Elites may weaponize UBI to pacify and control surplus populations.

25.- Ethical AI development must integrate peace and human dignity values.

26.- Disruption of nuclear family accelerates societal loneliness epidemic.

27.- Global South leverage grows as North faces systemic viability crisis.

28.- Technological supremacy determines emerging civilizatory hierarchies.

29.- Public discourse must transcend tool-centric views of artificial intelligence.

30.- Future dialogues will deepen Manifesto X peace principle implementation.

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