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Main[Vault7-309]
Main --> AI[AI Shockwave]
AI --> A[Agents double capability,
outpace society. 1]
AI --> B[Printing press ended copyists. 2]
AI --> C[Copilot boosts yet
corporate inertia persists. 3]
Main --> Tax[Tax & Exodus]
Tax --> D[Spain minimum income
creates un-attachable citizens. 4]
Tax --> E[Nomads & crypto
escape tax burden. 5]
Main --> UBI[UBI Experiments]
UBI --> F[Circle & GoodDollar
decentralized pilots. 6]
UBI --> G[US & China
may dictate terms. 7]
UBI --> H[Tax Big Tech
data sovereignty. 8]
UBI --> I[Europe lags
US tech dominance. 9]
UBI --> J[UBI short-term
AI buffer. 10]
UBI --> K[UBI sedative risks
human agency. 11]
Main --> Spain[Spain Crisis]
Spain --> L[Demographic collapse
immigrants sustain birth. 12]
Spain --> M[Young priced out
by boomer rents. 18]
Spain --> N[Pension theft
young fund retirees. 19]
Main --> Future[Post-Work Future]
Future --> O[Consciousness revolution
not just economics. 13]
Future --> P[Neuroplasticity redefines
human value. 14]
Future --> Q[5â10 year rupture
then new paradigm. 15]
Main --> Reform[Fiscal Reform]
Reform --> R[Abolish VAT income tax
data monopolies pay. 17]
Reform --> S[State redistributor or
decentralized networks. 16]
Main --> Value[Value Collapse]
Value --> T[Religious family decline
despite income. 20]
Value --> U[AI mirrors greed
not inequality cause. 21]
Main --> Crypto[Crypto UBI]
Crypto --> V[Blockchain enables
state-resistant UBI. 22]
Crypto --> W[Universal high income
post-scarcity future. 23]
Main --> Surveillance[Digital Euro]
Surveillance --> X[Digital euro curbs
black market. 24]
X --> Y[Feared as
surveillance instrument. 24]
Main --> Energy[Energy Transition]
Energy --> Z[Cheap sodium batteries
solar storage. 27]
Energy --> AA[Spain cheap energy
attract AI jobs. 28]
Main --> Art[Art Grants]
Art --> AB[Artist grants questioned
amid business collapse. 29]
Main --> Narrative[Narrative Shift]
Narrative --> AC[UBI needs transcendent
purpose to avoid dystopia. 30]
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class Tax,D,E hist
class UBI,F,G,H,I,J,K ubi
class Spain,L,M,N spain
class Future,O,P,Q state
class Reform,R,S corp
class Value,T,U crypto
class Crypto,V,W crypto
class Surveillance,X,Y state
class Energy,Z,AA energy
class Art,AB spain
class Narrative,AC state
Resume:
The conversation unfolds as a dense, passionate round-table on the future of work, artificial intelligence, and the social necessity of Universal Basic Income. Host Plåcido Doménech opens by framing UBI not as a utopian dream but as an urgent response to the accelerating displacement of human labor by AI agents. Speakers from tech, law, crypto-economics and philosophy converge on the idea that the speed of technological change far outpaces the capacity of individuals, companies, and even nation-states to adapt. They cite recent research showing agentic AI doubling its problem-solving horizon every few months, and CEOs warning that entire professions may vanish within five to ten years.
JosĂ© Musach stresses that while the tools already exist, corporate inertia and social fear slow adoption; Julio de la Torre historicizes the shift, comparing todayâs transition to the displacement of medieval copyists by the printing press. Ălvaro GonzĂĄlez-GedĂĄn argues that the real rupture is the end of capitalism itself, driven by a new crypto-enabled âGENTIâ economy. RocĂo GonzĂĄlez PĂ©rez warns that regulatory âhuman-in-the-loopâ requirements are temporary fig leaves that will soon yield to full automation, making UBI unavoidable.
The debate then pivots to implementation. Spainâs current minimum-income scheme is criticized for creating perverse incentives: recipients become legally un-attachable, rents go unpaid, and a parallel black-market economy flourishes. Participants denounce the fiscal oppression of middle-class workers who finance the system while digital nomads and crypto-holders escape oversight. They contrast centralized state models with emergent decentralized pilots such as Circle and GoodDollar that issue UBI without government mediation, already reaching hundreds of thousands of users.
Underlying the practicalities lies a deeper crisis of meaning. Speakers invoke Krishnamurtiâs call for a âradical revolution in the human mind,â insisting that technology is not the problem but a mirror reflecting human greed and shortsightedness. They warn that UBI could become a sedative, a âpicket that will dilapidate our little freedom,â unless paired with a civilizatory project that redefines purpose beyond wage labor. The conversation closes on the demographic question: in a society that has lost religious and family structures, UBI may accelerate the collapse of birth rates, leaving only immigrant communities to sustain population levels. The panel ends without consensus, but with shared urgency: the window for shaping a humane post-work future is narrow, and the choices made in the next five years will determine whether UBI becomes liberation or digital serfdom.
30 Key Ideas:
1.- AI agents double capability every few months, replacing human tasks faster than society absorbs the shock.
2.- Historical precedent: printing press ended copyists; AI ends todayâs professions.
3.- Corporate inertia delays adoption despite tools like Microsoft Copilot already boosting productivity.
4.- Spainâs minimum income creates un-attachable citizens, unpaid rents and systemic abuse.
5.- Digital nomads and crypto users escape taxation while workers shoulder the fiscal burden.
6.- Decentralized pilots Circle and GoodDollar issue UBI without state control, enrolling hundreds of thousands.
7.- Centralized superpowers US and China will likely dictate UBI terms via tech giants.
8.- Data sovereignty proposal: tax Big Tech for citizen data to fund unconditional payments.
9.- European regulations lag behind American technological dominance, limiting policy options.
10.- Universal Basic Income framed as short-term crisis buffer during AI implementation decade.
11.- Critics warn UBI risks becoming permanent sedative, eroding human agency and purpose.
12.- Demographic collapse feared: native Spaniards delay children; immigrants sustain birth rates.
13.- Krishnamurtiâs radical revolution urged: transform consciousness, not just economics.
14.- Neuroplasticity and quantum education predicted to redefine human value post-labor.
15.- Crisis timeline: 5â10 years of deep social rupture, possible conflict, then new paradigm.
16.- Stateâs role debated: redistributor versus obsolete artifact replaced by decentralized networks.
17.- Fiscal reform call: abolish VAT and income tax, charge data monopolies for citizen contributions.
18.- Spainâs pension system inter-generational theft: young fund retirees who captured wealth.
19.- Young Spanish generation priced out of housing, dining, marginalized by boomer-protected rents.
20.- Religious and family value decline linked to childlessness despite guaranteed income.
21.- Artificial intelligence seen as mirror reflecting human greed, not root cause of inequality.
22.- Blockchain and crypto tools enable anonymous, state-resistant UBI experiments.
23.- Universal high income, not basic, predicted by Musk and Altman for post-scarcity future.
24.- Digital euro proposed to curb black-market work but feared as surveillance instrument.
25.- Impunity culture: debt write-offs and legal loopholes undermine productive middle class.
26.- Social disgust and incredulity identified as emotional precursors to potential civil unrest.
27.- Energy transition: cheap sodium batteries and solar storage critical for AI datacenter growth.
28.- Spainâs opportunity: leverage cheap energy and storage to attract AI infrastructure jobs.
29.- Artist grants like Irelandâs 1 300 ⏠stipend questioned as luxury amid business collapse.
30.- UBI narrative must embed transcendent purpose to avoid dystopian âevaluationâ scenarios.
Interviews by Plåcido Doménech Espà & Guests - Knowledge Vault built byDavid Vivancos 2025